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Burak Oguz
Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jun 17, 2009 7:52 AM
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I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
using EJB and Jersey modules.

I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
packages are:

NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION STATE UFIX
felix 1.2.2-0 installed ----
glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-api 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-common 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1 installed ----
glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0 installed ----
glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed ----
glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-management 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-web 3.0-28.4 installed ----
glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4 installed ----
jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed ----
metro 1.4-5010 installed ----
pkg 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed ----

What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very small scale?

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Alexis Moussine...
Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jun 18, 2009 8:34 AM   in response to: Burak Oguz
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Hello Burak,

From your list below you can certainly remove a few packages but the
dependencies are still a bit brittle so be careful how you do that.
I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement though. How many
instances of GlassFish do you intend to run in a 512MB environment?
With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app deployed, I
barely reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :

$ bin/pkg list
NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
STATE UFIX
felix 1.8.0-0
installed ----
glassfish-amx 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-common 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
installed ----
glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
installed ----
glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
installed ----
glassfish-jta 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-management 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-web 3.0-51
installed ----
jersey 1.1.0-1.0
installed ----

Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most current promoted
build is 51.
You should probably at least use the Preview version from JavaOne: https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html

cheers,
-Alexis

On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:

> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
> devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>
> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
> packages are:
>
> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.2.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1
> installed ----
> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
> metro 1.4-5010
> installed ----
> pkg 1.0.7-15.1269
> installed ----
> pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269
> installed ----
> python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269
> installed ----
>
> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very small scale?
>
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Burak Oguz
Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jun 18, 2009 2:32 PM   in response to: Alexis Moussine...
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Hi Alexis,

Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration. We are running a
single instance of glassfish with an average size ejb/jersey/jta application
and our memory consumption is about 200-300mb. It is far too much for our
UTM machine. I will reply again after trying your configuration.

Thanks..

-- Burak

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@
sun.com> wrote:

> Hello Burak,
>
> From your list below you can certainly remove a few packages but the
> dependencies are still a bit brittle so be careful how you do that.
> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement though. How many
> instances of GlassFish do you intend to run in a 512MB environment?
> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app deployed, I barely
> reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>
> $ bin/pkg list
> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE
> UFIX
> felix 1.8.0-0 installed
> ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20 installed
> ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0 installed
> ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
> ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-51 installed
> ----
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
> ----
>
> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most current promoted build
> is 51.
> You should probably at least use the Preview version from JavaOne:
> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
>> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
>> devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
>> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>>
>> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
>> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
>> packages are:
>>
>> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION STATE
>> UFIX
>> felix 1.2.2-0 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>> ----
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>> ----
>> metro 1.4-5010 installed
>> ----
>> pkg 1.0.7-15.1269 installed
>> ----
>> pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269 installed
>> ----
>> python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed
>> ----
>>
>> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very small scale?
>>
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Alexis Moussine...
Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 2:21 AM   in response to: Burak Oguz
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Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more testing and here's an
updated list of the modules I used (the initial one was missing at
least EJB support):

NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
STATE UFIX
felix 1.8.0-0
installed ----
glassfish-amx 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-common 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
installed ----
glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
installed ----
glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-jca 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
installed ----
glassfish-jta 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-management 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
installed ----
glassfish-web 3.0-51
installed ----
jersey 1.1.0-1.0
installed ----

There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed but that
shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly smaller than your
app and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the appserver run using between
30-40MB.

cheers,
-Alexis

On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:

> Hi Alexis,
>
> Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration. We are
> running a single instance of glassfish with an average size ejb/
> jersey/jta application and our memory consumption is about
> 200-300mb. It is far too much for our UTM machine. I will reply
> again after trying your configuration.
>
> Thanks..
>
> -- Burak
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@sun.com
> > wrote:
> Hello Burak,
>
> From your list below you can certainly remove a few packages but the
> dependencies are still a bit brittle so be careful how you do that.
> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement though. How many
> instances of GlassFish do you intend to run in a 512MB environment?
> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app deployed, I
> barely reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>
> $ bin/pkg list
> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.8.0-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
> installed ----
>
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-51
> installed ----
>
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
>
> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most current
> promoted build is 51.
> You should probably at least use the Preview version from JavaOne: https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
> devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>
> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
> packages are:
>
> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.2.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1
> installed ----
> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
> metro 1.4-5010
> installed ----
> pkg 1.0.7-15.1269
> installed ----
> pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269
> installed ----
> python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269
> installed ----
>
> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very small scale?
>
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John Clingan
Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 8:00 AM   in response to: Alexis Moussine...
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Are you both measuring resident set size?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@sun.com
> wrote:

> Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more testing and here's an
> updated list of the modules I used (the initial one was missing at
> least EJB support):
>
> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.8.0-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
> installed ----
> glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-jca 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-51
> installed ----
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
>
> There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed but that
> shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
> The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly smaller than
> your app and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the appserver run using
> between 30-40MB.
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexis,
>>
>> Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration. We are
>> running a single instance of glassfish with an average size ejb/
>> jersey/jta application and our memory consumption is about
>> 200-300mb. It is far too much for our UTM machine. I will reply
>> again after trying your configuration.
>>
>> Thanks..
>>
>> -- Burak
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@sun.com
>> > wrote:
>> Hello Burak,
>>
>> From your list below you can certainly remove a few packages but
>> the dependencies are still a bit brittle so be careful how you do
>> that.
>> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement though. How many
>> instances of GlassFish do you intend to run in a 512MB environment?
>> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app deployed, I
>> barely reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>>
>> $ bin/pkg list
>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
>> STATE UFIX
>> felix 1.8.0-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>>
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>>
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
>> installed ----
>>
>> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most current
>> promoted build is 51.
>> You should probably at least use the Preview version from JavaOne: https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>>
>> cheers,
>> -Alexis
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>
>> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
>> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
>> devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
>> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>>
>> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
>> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
>> packages are:
>>
>> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION
>> STATE UFIX
>> felix 1.2.2-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
>> installed ----
>> metro 1.4-5010
>> installed ----
>> pkg 1.0.7-15.1269
>> installed ----
>> pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269
>> installed ----
>> python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269
>> installed ----
>>
>> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very small scale?
>>
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Burak Oguz
Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jun 22, 2009 3:15 AM   in response to: John Clingan
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I am talking about the resident size.. It hits to 200mb and I want to use it
about max around 100mb because max user is about 5-10.

The largest scoped application is using JTA,JPA,EJB and Jersey... Any
performance tweaks will be useful too because when I set maxpermsize and xmx
to around 128mb it does not have any effect..

Thanks again..

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, John Clingan <John.Clingan@sun.com> wrote:

> Are you both measuring resident set size?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@sun.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more testing and here's an
>> updated list of the modules I used (the initial one was missing at least EJB
>> support):
>>
>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE
>> UFIX
>> felix 1.8.0-0 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jca 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-51 installed
>> ----
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>> ----
>>
>> There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed but that
>> shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
>> The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly smaller than your app
>> and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the appserver run using between 30-40MB.
>>
>> cheers,
>> -Alexis
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alexis,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration. We are running a
>>> single instance of glassfish with an average size ejb/jersey/jta application
>>> and our memory consumption is about 200-300mb. It is far too much for our
>>> UTM machine. I will reply again after trying your configuration.
>>>
>>> Thanks..
>>>
>>> -- Burak
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@
>>> sun.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Burak,
>>>
>>> From your list below you can certainly remove a few packages but the
>>> dependencies are still a bit brittle so be careful how you do that.
>>> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement though. How many
>>> instances of GlassFish do you intend to run in a 512MB environment?
>>> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app deployed, I barely
>>> reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>>>
>>> $ bin/pkg list
>>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE
>>> UFIX
>>> felix 1.8.0-0 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-common 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>>
>>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-management 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-web 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>>
>>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>>> ----
>>>
>>> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most current promoted
>>> build is 51.
>>> You should probably at least use the Preview version from JavaOne:
>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> -Alexis
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>>
>>> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
>>> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
>>> devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
>>> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>>>
>>> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
>>> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
>>> packages are:
>>>
>>> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION STATE
>>> UFIX
>>> felix 1.2.2-0 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>>> ----
>>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>>> ----
>>> metro 1.4-5010 installed
>>> ----
>>> pkg 1.0.7-15.1269 installed
>>> ----
>>> pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269 installed
>>> ----
>>> python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed
>>> ----
>>>
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Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jul 9, 2009 7:14 AM   in response to: Burak Oguz
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Hi Alexis,

A few weeks ago I have asked about performance tuning in the post "Glassfish
v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)". You have said that you are running
an ejb/jersey application around 30-40 mbs. I wonder that can you send your
optimizations in domain.xml?

My application contains ejb/jpa/jta/jersey with about 160 classes. And only
the application consumes around 100mbs. I have changed my ejbs to local
scope and jpa caches to very small sizes but these modifications did not
affect anything. GF totally consumes around 200mbs on startup.

Any help will be greatly appreciated because we are unable to reduce memory
consumption. Our domain.xml is attached.

Thanks

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Burak Oguz <burak.oguz@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am talking about the resident size.. It hits to 200mb and I want to use
> it about max around 100mb because max user is about 5-10.
>
> The largest scoped application is using JTA,JPA,EJB and Jersey... Any
> performance tweaks will be useful too because when I set maxpermsize and xmx
> to around 128mb it does not have any effect..
>
> Thanks again..
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, John Clingan <John.Clingan@sun.com>wrote:
>
>> Are you both measuring resident set size?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@sun.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more testing and here's an
>>> updated list of the modules I used (the initial one was missing at least EJB
>>> support):
>>>
>>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE
>>> UFIX
>>> felix 1.8.0-0 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-common 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jca 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-management 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> glassfish-web 3.0-51 installed
>>> ----
>>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>>> ----
>>>
>>> There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed but that
>>> shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
>>> The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly smaller than your
>>> app and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the appserver run using between
>>> 30-40MB.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> -Alexis
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alexis,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration. We are running
>>>> a single instance of glassfish with an average size ejb/jersey/jta
>>>> application and our memory consumption is about 200-300mb. It is far too
>>>> much for our UTM machine. I will reply again after trying your
>>>> configuration.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks..
>>>>
>>>> -- Burak
>>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@
>>>> sun.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Burak,
>>>>
>>>> From your list below you can certainly remove a few packages but the
>>>> dependencies are still a bit brittle so be careful how you do that.
>>>> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement though. How many
>>>> instances of GlassFish do you intend to run in a 512MB environment?
>>>> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app deployed, I barely
>>>> reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>>>>
>>>> $ bin/pkg list
>>>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION STATE
>>>> UFIX
>>>> felix 1.8.0-0 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-common 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-management 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-web 3.0-51 installed
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most current promoted
>>>> build is 51.
>>>> You should probably at least use the Preview version from JavaOne:
>>>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> -Alexis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with small memory
>>>> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance? In 512mb
>>>> devices we will have really small amount of users to serve. We are
>>>> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing pool numbers
>>>> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently installed
>>>> packages are:
>>>>
>>>> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION STATE
>>>> UFIX
>>>> felix 1.2.2-0 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> metro 1.4-5010 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> pkg 1.0.7-15.1269 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> pkg-java 1.0.7-15.1269 installed
>>>> ----
>>>> python2.4-minimal 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very small scale?
>>>>
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Alexis Moussine...
Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jul 9, 2009 12:30 PM   in response to: Burak Oguz
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Hello Burak,

How are you measuring the memory used?
Could it be that the 200MB you are seeing are the -Xmx192m (same as
-Xms) JVM settings for the heap and reported by an OS tool like top?
Will the application run (no outofmemoryerror) if you lower these values
(that would require lowering -XX:MaxPermSize to something like a 1/3rd
of the heap size)?

cheers,
-Alexis


Burak Oguz wrote:
> Hi Alexis,
>
> A few weeks ago I have asked about performance tuning in the post
> "Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)". You have said that
> you are running an ejb/jersey application around 30-40 mbs. I wonder
> that can you send your optimizations in domain.xml?
>
> My application contains ejb/jpa/jta/jersey with about 160 classes. And
> only the application consumes around 100mbs. I have changed my ejbs to
> local scope and jpa caches to very small sizes but these modifications
> did not affect anything. GF totally consumes around 200mbs on startup.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated because we are unable to reduce
> memory consumption. Our domain.xml is attached.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Burak Oguz <burak.oguz@gmail.com
> <mailto:burak.oguz@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I am talking about the resident size.. It hits to 200mb and I want
> to use it about max around 100mb because max user is about 5-10.
>
> The largest scoped application is using JTA,JPA,EJB and Jersey...
> Any performance tweaks will be useful too because when I set
> maxpermsize and xmx to around 128mb it does not have any effect..
>
> Thanks again..
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, John Clingan <John.Clingan@sun.com
> <mailto:John.Clingan@sun.com>> wrote:
>
> Are you both measuring resident set size?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine
> <alexis.mp <http://@sun.com <http://> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more testing and
> here's an updated list of the modules I used (the initial
> one was missing at least EJB support):
>
> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.8.0-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
> installed ----
> glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-jca 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-51
> installed ----
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
>
> There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed
> but that shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
> The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly smaller
> than your app and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the appserver
> run using between 30-40MB.
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> Hi Alexis,
>
> Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration.
> We are running a single instance of glassfish with an
> average size ejb/jersey/jta application and our memory
> consumption is about 200-300mb. It is far too much for
> our UTM machine. I will reply again after trying your
> configuration.
>
> Thanks..
>
> -- Burak
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis
> Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp <http://@sun.com
> <http://> wrote:
> Hello Burak,
>
> From your list below you can certainly remove a few
> packages but the dependencies are still a bit brittle so
> be careful how you do that.
> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement
> though. How many instances of GlassFish do you intend to
> run in a 512MB environment?
> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app
> deployed, I barely reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>
> $ bin/pkg list
> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.8.0-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
> installed ----
>
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-51
> installed ----
>
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
>
> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most
> current promoted build is 51.
> You should probably at least use the Preview version
> from JavaOne:
> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with
> small memory
> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance?
> In 512mb
> devices we will have really small amount of users to
> serve. We are
> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>
> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing
> pool numbers
> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently
> installed
> packages are:
>
> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.2.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1
> installed ----
> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
> installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4
> installed ----
> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
> metro 1.4-5010
> installed ----
> pkg
> 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
> pkg-java
> 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
> python2.4-minimal
> 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed ----
>
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Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jul 10, 2009 4:20 AM   in response to: Alexis Moussine...
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Hi,

Yes we measure that with top command. And when we try to decrease especially
MaxPermSize value it stalls if we use ConcMarkSweepGC or gives PermGenSpace
with serial gc. We are stuck at this moment because we are unable to start
base glassfish with 3 listeners (jk + normal + ssl) around 100mb and when we
deploy our applications without any access it hits to 200mb and when people
start to use it, GFv3 hits to 250-300mb in memory consumption. These values
are very high for our production environment and we are unable optimize
them.

Do you have any optimized domain.xml for latest nightly builds?

Thanks again..

-Burak

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp@
sun.com> wrote:

> Hello Burak,
>
> How are you measuring the memory used?
> Could it be that the 200MB you are seeing are the -Xmx192m (same as -Xms)
> JVM settings for the heap and reported by an OS tool like top? Will the
> application run (no outofmemoryerror) if you lower these values (that would
> require lowering -XX:MaxPermSize to something like a 1/3rd of the heap
> size)?
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
>
> Burak Oguz wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexis,
>>
>> A few weeks ago I have asked about performance tuning in the post
>> "Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)". You have said that you
>> are running an ejb/jersey application around 30-40 mbs. I wonder that can
>> you send your optimizations in domain.xml?
>>
>> My application contains ejb/jpa/jta/jersey with about 160 classes. And
>> only the application consumes around 100mbs. I have changed my ejbs to local
>> scope and jpa caches to very small sizes but these modifications did not
>> affect anything. GF totally consumes around 200mbs on startup.
>>
>> Any help will be greatly appreciated because we are unable to reduce
>> memory consumption. Our domain.xml is attached.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Burak Oguz <burak.oguz@gmail.com<mailto:
>> burak.oguz@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I am talking about the resident size.. It hits to 200mb and I want
>> to use it about max around 100mb because max user is about 5-10.
>>
>> The largest scoped application is using JTA,JPA,EJB and Jersey...
>> Any performance tweaks will be useful too because when I set
>> maxpermsize and xmx to around 128mb it does not have any effect..
>>
>> Thanks again..
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, John Clingan <John.Clingan@sun.com
>> <mailto:John.Clingan@sun.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Are you both measuring resident set size?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine
>> <alexis.mp <http://@sun.com <http://> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more testing and
>> here's an updated list of the modules I used (the initial
>> one was missing at least EJB support):
>>
>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
>> STATE UFIX
>> felix 1.8.0-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jca 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
>> installed ----
>>
>> There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed
>> but that shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
>> The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly smaller
>> than your app and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the appserver
>> run using between 30-40MB.
>>
>> cheers,
>> -Alexis
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alexis,
>>
>> Thanks for your response. I will try your configuration.
>> We are running a single instance of glassfish with an
>> average size ejb/jersey/jta application and our memory
>> consumption is about 200-300mb. It is far too much for
>> our UTM machine. I will reply again after trying your
>> configuration.
>>
>> Thanks..
>>
>> -- Burak
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis
>> Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp <http://@sun.com
>>
>> <http://> wrote:
>> Hello Burak,
>>
>> From your list below you can certainly remove a few
>> packages but the dependencies are still a bit brittle so
>> be careful how you do that.
>> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement
>> though. How many instances of GlassFish do you intend to
>> run in a 512MB environment?
>> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app
>> deployed, I barely reach 30MB (according to jconsole) :
>>
>> $ bin/pkg list
>> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
>> STATE UFIX
>> felix 1.8.0-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-20
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.9.15-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>>
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-51
>> installed ----
>>
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
>> installed ----
>>
>> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most
>> current promoted build is 51.
>> You should probably at least use the Preview version
>> from JavaOne:
>> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>>
>> cheers,
>> -Alexis
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>>
>> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with
>> small memory
>> footprint devices like 512mb devices with performance?
>> In 512mb
>> devices we will have really small amount of users to
>> serve. We are
>> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>>
>> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like decreasing
>> pool numbers
>> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently
>> installed
>> packages are:
>>
>> NAME (AUTHORITY) VERSION
>> STATE UFIX
>> felix 1.2.2-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-amx 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-api 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-common 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-corba-omgapi 3.0.0-1
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-ejb 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-grizzly 1.8.6.2-0
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-hk2 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jca 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jdbc 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jdbc-management 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jpa 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jsf 2.0.0-13
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jta 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-jts 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-management 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> glassfish-web-management 3.0-28.4
>> installed ----
>> jersey 1.1.0-1.0
>> installed ----
>> metro 1.4-5010
>> installed ----
>> pkg
>> 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
>> pkg-java
>> 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
>> python2.4-minimal
>> 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed ----
>>
>> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very
>> small scale?
>>
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Re: Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)
Posted: Jul 15, 2009 1:53 AM   in response to: Burak Oguz
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I used -Xmx96m, -Xms96m, and -XX:MaxPermSize=32m with GlassFish v3 b54
(with the limited set of installed packages described earlier) but my
application wasn't very ambitious, not highly stressed and probably not
representative of yours.

Also, what do you mean by "stalls" with ConcMarkSweepGC ?

thanks,
-Alexis

Burak Oguz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes we measure that with top command. And when we try to decrease
> especially MaxPermSize value it stalls if we use ConcMarkSweepGC or
> gives PermGenSpace with serial gc. We are stuck at this moment because
> we are unable to start base glassfish with 3 listeners (jk + normal +
> ssl) around 100mb and when we deploy our applications without any access
> it hits to 200mb and when people start to use it, GFv3 hits to 250-300mb
> in memory consumption. These values are very high for our production
> environment and we are unable optimize them.
>
> Do you have any optimized domain.xml for latest nightly builds?
>
> Thanks again..
>
> -Burak
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp
> <http://@sun.com <http://> wrote:
>
> Hello Burak,
>
> How are you measuring the memory used?
> Could it be that the 200MB you are seeing are the -Xmx192m (same as
> -Xms) JVM settings for the heap and reported by an OS tool like top?
> Will the application run (no outofmemoryerror) if you lower these
> values (that would require lowering -XX:MaxPermSize to something
> like a 1/3rd of the heap size)?
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
>
> Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> Hi Alexis,
>
> A few weeks ago I have asked about performance tuning in the
> post "Glassfish v3 in very small scale (memory and cpu)". You
> have said that you are running an ejb/jersey application around
> 30-40 mbs. I wonder that can you send your optimizations in
> domain.xml?
>
> My application contains ejb/jpa/jta/jersey with about 160
> classes. And only the application consumes around 100mbs. I have
> changed my ejbs to local scope and jpa caches to very small
> sizes but these modifications did not affect anything. GF
> totally consumes around 200mbs on startup.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated because we are unable to
> reduce memory consumption. Our domain.xml is attached.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Burak Oguz
> <burak.oguz@gmail.com <mailto:burak.oguz@gmail.com>
> <mailto:burak.oguz@gmail.com <mailto:burak.oguz@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> I am talking about the resident size.. It hits to 200mb and I
> want
> to use it about max around 100mb because max user is about 5-10.
>
> The largest scoped application is using JTA,JPA,EJB and Jersey...
> Any performance tweaks will be useful too because when I set
> maxpermsize and xmx to around 128mb it does not have any effect..
>
> Thanks again..
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:00 PM, John Clingan
> <John.Clingan@sun.com <mailto:John.Clingan@sun.com>
> <mailto:John.Clingan@sun.com <mailto:John.Clingan@sun.com>>>
> wrote:
>
> Are you both measuring resident set size?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:21 AM, Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine
> <alexis.mp <http:// <http://@sun.com
> <http:// <http://> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the update. I did a little bit more
> testing and
> here's an updated list of the modules I used (the initial
> one was missing at least EJB support):
>
> NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSION
> STATE UFIX
> felix 1.8.0-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-amx 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-common 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi
> 3.0.0-20 installed ----
> glassfish-ejb-lite 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly
> 1.9.15-0 installed ----
> glassfish-hk2 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-jca 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-jsf
> 2.0.0-13 installed ----
> glassfish-jta 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-management 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus 3.0-51
> installed ----
> glassfish-web 3.0-51
> installed ----
> jersey
> 1.1.0-1.0 installed ----
>
> There's a bug that requires glassfish-jca to be installed
> but that shouldn't make a big difference, memory-wise.
> The sample jersey-ejb application I used (admittedly
> smaller
> than your app and also not using JDBC/JPA) has the
> appserver
> run using between 30-40MB.
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 23:32, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> Hi Alexis,
>
> Thanks for your response. I will try your
> configuration.
> We are running a single instance of glassfish with an
> average size ejb/jersey/jta application and our
> memory
> consumption is about 200-300mb. It is far too
> much for
> our UTM machine. I will reply again after trying your
> configuration.
>
> Thanks..
>
> -- Burak
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Alexis
> Moussine-Pouchkine <alexis.mp <http://
> <http://@sun.com <http://
>
> <http://> wrote:
> Hello Burak,
>
> From your list below you can certainly remove a few
> packages but the dependencies are still a bit
> brittle so
> be careful how you do that.
> I'm not sure I understand your memory requirement
> though. How many instances of GlassFish do you
> intend to
> run in a 512MB environment?
> With the following config and a simple ejb/jersey app
> deployed, I barely reach 30MB (according to
> jconsole) :
>
> $ bin/pkg list
> NAME (PUBLISHER)
> VERSION STATE UFIX
> felix
> 1.8.0-0 installed ----
> glassfish-amx
> 3.0-51 installed ----
> glassfish-common
> 3.0-51 installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi
> 3.0.0-20 installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly
> 1.9.15-0 installed ----
> glassfish-hk2
> 3.0-51 installed ----
>
> glassfish-jsf
> 2.0.0-13 installed ----
> glassfish-jta
> 3.0-51 installed ----
> glassfish-management
> 3.0-51 installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus
> 3.0-51 installed ----
> glassfish-web
> 3.0-51 installed ----
>
> jersey
> 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
>
> Note you're using fairly old version of v3, the most
> current promoted build is 51.
> You should probably at least use the Preview version
> from JavaOne:
>
> https://glassfish.dev.java.net/downloads/v3-preview.html
>
> cheers,
> -Alexis
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2009, at 16:52, Burak Oguz wrote:
>
> I wonder that is there a way to run Glassfish v3 with
> small memory
> footprint devices like 512mb devices with
> performance?
> In 512mb
> devices we will have really small amount of users to
> serve. We are
> using EJB and Jersey modules.
>
> I have tried many tricks on domain.xml like
> decreasing
> pool numbers
> and closing unnecessary services and ports. Currently
> installed
> packages are:
>
> NAME (AUTHORITY)
> VERSION STATE UFIX
> felix
> 1.2.2-0 installed ----
> glassfish-amx
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-api
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-common
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-corba-omgapi
> 3.0.0-1 installed ----
> glassfish-ejb
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-grizzly
> 1.8.6.2-0
> installed ----
> glassfish-hk2
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-jca
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-jdbc-management
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-jpa
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-jsf
> 2.0.0-13 installed ----
> glassfish-jta
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-jts
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-management
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-nucleus
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-web
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> glassfish-web-management
> 3.0-28.4 installed ----
> jersey
> 1.1.0-1.0
> installed ----
> metro
> 1.4-5010 installed ----
> pkg
> 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
> pkg-java
> 1.0.7-15.1269 installed ----
> python2.4-minimal
> 2.4.4.0-15.1269 installed ----
>
> What should I do in order to run Glassfish in a very
> small scale?
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