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chris11kgf

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Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 17, 2009 11:06 AM
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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has had success exporting a Maya 2008 file on Mac to collada for use in Wonderland v0.5.

I downloaded and installed the CG.framework from NVIDIA and the ColladaExporter3.05B. Then, in Maya I checked load and autoload on COLLADA.bundle under Window>>Settings/Preferences>>PlugInManager. From there, I was able to export files into .dae format. I tried a simple model of some spheres and cubes and then a more complex model of an urban village. Also, saw the free transform post from earlier and tried that on my models.

Unfortunately, neither of my models were viewable. I tried scaling larger (1.0, 5.0, 10.0) but still was unable to see model.

Can anyone provide tips for troubleshooting? Also, would I be better off just using Google Sketch Up? I am working on a Business Collaboration project for a Government contract.

Hope I provided enough information. I'm new to these discussion forums.

Also, thanks for great presentations at Java One. They were the highlight of Conference for me.

Chris

Doug Twilleager
Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 17, 2009 11:17 AM   in response to: chris11kgf
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Try the ColladaMaya exporter from Feeling Software. That's the best
collada exporter from Maya that we know of.

Doug.


On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:06 AM, wonderland@javadesktop.org wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has had success exporting a Maya 2008 file
> on Mac to collada for use in Wonderland v0.5.
>
> I downloaded and installed the CG.framework from NVIDIA and the
> ColladaExporter3.05B. Then, in Maya I checked load and autoload on
> COLLADA.bundle under Window>>Settings/Preferences>>PlugInManager.
> From there, I was able to export files into .dae format. I tried a
> simple model of some spheres and cubes and then a more complex model
> of an urban village. Also, saw the free transform post from earlier
> and tried that on my models.
>
> Unfortunately, neither of my models were viewable. I tried scaling
> larger (1.0, 5.0, 10.0) but still was unable to see model.
>
> Can anyone provide tips for troubleshooting? Also, would I be
> better off just using Google Sketch Up? I am working on a Business
> Collaboration project for a Government contract.
>
> Hope I provided enough information. I'm new to these discussion
> forums.
>
> Also, thanks for great presentations at Java One. They were the
> highlight of Conference for me.
>
> Chris
> [Message sent by forum member 'chris11kgf' (chris11kgf)]
>
> http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=351693


nicoley

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 2:05 AM   in response to: chris11kgf
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If you want to stick with Maya, Doug's suggestion makes sense, but if you don't plan to take advantage of May's high-end graphics capabilities like normal maps and bump maps, you might make your life easier by using SketchUp instead. In SketchUp, just export your models using the Google Earth (.kmz) format and you should be able to drag and drop them into the Wonderland window.

Nicole.

jagwire

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 25, 2009 2:54 PM   in response to: chris11kgf
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Chris,

Have you made any progress in this area? I'm interested in getting some models I've created in maya to export/import correctly into Wonderland and I'm curious of the various settings in use.

thanks,

jW

Doug Twilleager
Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 25, 2009 3:32 PM   in response to: jagwire
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I will be testing this and documenting the best settings for exporting
models next week.

Doug.


On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:54 PM, wonderland@javadesktop.org wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Have you made any progress in this area? I'm interested in getting
> some models I've created in maya to export/import correctly into
> Wonderland and I'm curious of the various settings in use.
>
> thanks,
>
> jW
> [Message sent by forum member 'jagwire' (jagwire)]
>
> http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=353026


jagwire

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 29, 2009 9:06 AM   in response to: Doug Twilleager
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Doug,

I have some basic "building blocks" and tetris shapes in an .mb if you'd like them for your testing this week...

Should I send/upload somewhere?

jW

Doug Twilleager
Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 29, 2009 10:14 AM   in response to: jagwire
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Feel free to e-mail it to me.

Thanks,
Doug.


On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:06 AM, wonderland@javadesktop.org wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I have some basic "building blocks" and tetris shapes in an .mb if
> you'd like them for your testing this week...
>
> Should I send/upload somewhere?
>
> jW
> [Message sent by forum member 'jagwire' (jagwire)]
>
> http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=353428


jagwire

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jul 17, 2009 3:30 PM   in response to: Doug Twilleager
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Doug,

Did we ever figure out the best/correct options to use when exporting to collada?

thanks,

jW

Doug Twilleager
Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jul 17, 2009 4:24 PM   in response to: jagwire
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I haven't gotten to this yet - but I am aiming to finish it up the
later half of next week.
If you want to use standard materials, the standard settings should be
fine. The only
one I want to test is normal mapping - which I'm pretty sure doesn't
come straight
through cleanly. Often times, I will need to enable triangulation if
the exporter supports
it. That is because our loader doesn't support every geometry type.

As you may have heard, we are trying to finalize all the core api's
soon, and so that's
why some of the module work (like loaders) have been on a lower
priority for now.
I'll get back to this one very soon.

Thanks for the ping though. :^)

Doug.

On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:30 PM, wonderland@javadesktop.org wrote:

> Doug,
>
> Did we ever figure out the best/correct options to use when
> exporting to collada?
>
> thanks,
>
> jW
> [Message sent by forum member 'jagwire' (jagwire)]
>
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chris11kgf

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jun 26, 2009 1:39 PM   in response to: jagwire
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Hi,

Sorry for the late reply. Been away for a few days. Thanks for help Doug and Nicole. Actually have been exploring Sketch Up and seems easy to use. Lynda.com has some great starter tutorials.

jW, to get my Maya 2008 models, I downloaded the fbx plug in at the website below and then imported into Google Sketchup Pro as a .dxf file. From Sketch Up, I was able to save as a .skp or .kmz for use in Wonderland. You can experiment with Google Sketch Up Pro for 8 hours.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=6839916

Chris

rdahlgren

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jul 17, 2009 4:30 PM   in response to: chris11kgf
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As an addendum to Doug's recommendation for FeelingCollada's exporter, while it does seem to be the most complete exporter out there, it uses nonstandard extensions for some things. This can lead to files not loading as intended. Just something to watch out for. Interesting workaround with that convoluted pipe from MB to dxf to kmz!

Ronald E Dahlgren
Engineer, IMI Labs, LLC
http://cosmic-game-engine.blogspot.com/

Doug Twilleager
Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jul 17, 2009 4:35 PM   in response to: rdahlgren
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On Jul 17, 2009, at 4:30 PM, wonderland@javadesktop.org wrote:

> As an addendum to Doug's recommendation for FeelingCollada's
> exporter, while it does seem to be the most complete exporter out
> there, it uses nonstandard extensions for some things. This can lead
> to files not loading as intended. Just something to watch out for.
> Interesting workaround with that convoluted pipe from MB to dxf to
> kmz!
>

What's the toolchain for MB to dxf to kmz? If it works, I'd like to
test and document it.

Doug.


rdahlgren

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Re: Maya 2008 export to Collada
Posted: Jul 17, 2009 4:54 PM   in response to: Doug Twilleager
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See chris' post above:
"jW, to get my Maya 2008 models, I downloaded the fbx plug in at the website below and then imported into Google Sketchup Pro as a .dxf file. From Sketch Up, I was able to save as a .skp or .kmz for use in Wonderland. You can experiment with Google Sketch Up Pro for 8 hours."




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