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Dec 23, 2008 10:45 PM
by: jwenting
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Java/Plugin installation on Linux
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Dec 22, 2008 9:00 AM
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Hi,
I am using the deployJava.js to automate the installation, and I am having problems trying to make the installation experience smooth under Linux.
I am doing something like:
if (!deployJava.versionCheck("1.6.0_10+")) {
deployJava.installLatestJRE();
}
If one is under Linux, the user is redirected to a manual installation page, where one can download an RPM, etc. The clueless user will do that, retry my application and be redirected to the same page, over and over: the problem is that the plugin installation is a separate step, which he doesn't notice.
The first problem is that the installation page should be designed to expect a user coming in with Java installed without the plugin (I assume this unfortunately cannot be automatically detected). Is that going to be addressed?
The second problem is that different distribution will want to install Java in a different way: is there any work done between, I don't know, the openJDK community and the different distributions?
And third: is there work being done with an automated way to install Java on Linux, in the same way that it have been done on Windows? Are there distribution working on this?
Thanks!
Gabriele
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Re: Java/Plugin installation on Linux
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Dec 22, 2008 10:12 PM
in response to: carcassi
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You may want to check out the jdk-distros https://jdk-distros.dev.java.net/ project. I know it's used by several distros including Debian and Ubuntu.
The icedtea project is also used by several distros. In ubuntu this is used for the openjdk6 packages, which have a system installation / integration design nearly identical to the sun-java6 packages.
In Linux it's generally better for a user to install using a distro package, rather than downloading from Sun, but I wouldn't hold my breath for the deployJava script to help with that.
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Re: Java/Plugin installation on Linux
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Dec 23, 2008 8:57 AM
in response to: jstansel
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Hi jstransel:
The end user instructions on jdk-distros are along the line of what I am looking for.
I think deployJava is fine: it's really the page that it redirects to that is the problem. I like the Sun site in that it gives you the instructions depending on your OS, but a single page for "Linux" it's not that helpful.
I can't really expect that Sun provides instructions for each different distro, but if each distro have one it shouldn't be that hard to redirect to the appropriate page. I'll have to start putting together something for myself to support my users: it'd be nice if there was a clear place for me to work on this, so that we don't have to each redo it... It's actually very tedious work I'd rather avoid... :-/
Gabriele
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Re: Java/Plugin installation on Linux
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Dec 23, 2008 10:45 PM
in response to: carcassi
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The problem with redirecting to multiple (and constantly changing) external resources is that it takes a lot of (manual) maintenance.
Distributions come and go more quickly than people can keep up with, websites get redesigned, sometimes in such a way that it's impossible to link to specific pages in them from the outside (for example because each page is created on the fly with a non-constant URL).
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