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invalidname

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How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 28, 2008 6:12 AM
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I haven't noticed any discussions or blogs about the Sun-sponsored Blu-Ray event in Barcelona. How did it go? Was anything interesting announced?

If anyone doing BD-J development wants to blog about it on java.net, please get in touch with me (cadamson at oreilly.com). There seem to be quite a few developers interested in BD-J from afar (with the caveat that the price of entry is too high for most to actually try it out).

--Chris

francoislionet

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Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 28, 2008 9:07 AM   in response to: invalidname
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I was there, and really enjoyed it.

The first 1.5 days was presented by Mark Johnson, and he gave us a complete tour of all the API, files, and necessities of creating a BDJ disc. Then came Bill Foote who talked about debugging your application, and using GRIN (his menu creator).
I was not present at the next two days, and was only there on the Friday to watch Sonic's presentation of Scenarist. We also had a long talk about how to certifie your applications (and this is not simple).
Altogether this was a great event. The thing I will remember most is how many time was said "Don't use this, it is bugged on certain players", or "This had not been fully implemented", or "This will be very slow on a Samsung 1000 player" !!!
And I met a lot of great developer from Europe, USA and even Australia.

bddeveloper

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Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 28, 2008 9:14 AM   in response to: francoislionet
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Sounds Great! Can you share some of the "Don't do this" that you learned?

kader_h

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Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 30, 2008 2:31 AM   in response to: francoislionet
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Hi Francois and all,

I was on there for 5 days. About the thursday for Sony's presentation of BluPrint and BDJ.
We had a good presentation by Mark J. and Bill F. with good information to start quickly BDJ and test it.

To my mind, the level of protection of BD format (certificate, key provider, key studio, AACS, BD+...)
show that some paranoiac of security work on specification ( ? ).

And there are many thing not clear:
Certificate: which company will provide it
ID Organisation: same
BD9: it's available ? (AACS and/or Rom Mark are mandatory ?)
.....


Last Bill, you receive my email ?
Because noway to find your tool "cpistrip" (on web or in disc give with Hdcookbook), so I can no test
BDJ code on my BluRay Ferrari player (PS3 ;) ): BluPrint can make BD title without AACS to test it on PS3 (Scenarist can not ?).

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Bill Foote
Re: [BD-J-DEV] Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 30, 2008 2:31 AM   in response to: kader_h
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bd-j-dev@mobileandembedded.org wrote:

> Last Bill, you receive my email ?
> Because noway to find your tool "cpistrip" (on web or in disc give with Hdcookbook), so I can no test
> BDJ code on BluRay Ferrari (PS3 ;) ): BluPrint can make BD title without AACS to test it on PS3 (Scenarist can not ?).
> [Message sent by forum member 'kader_h' (kader_h)]


Yes, I hope you got my e-mail with it attached.

Anyway, it's in the subversion repository. It's only one really
small file, though:

https://hdcookbook.dev.java.net/source/browse/hdcookbook/trunk/tools/cpistrip/src/net/java/bd/tools/cpistrip/Main.java

If cpistrip is all you need, you can just click on "download" for
that link. However, if you want the menu xlet and everything else,
you will need to grab everything off the subversion repository.

I just put instructions for this up at
http://hdcookbook.com/errata/ch15_23.html , at the end.

Cheers,

Bill

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kader_h

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Re: [BD-J-DEV] Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 30, 2008 6:04 AM   in response to: Bill Foote
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Do you have any news about BD9?
Sonic said me to contact "Eclipse Data" (company not the open source project)
to ask them about mastering for this format.
My contact in Eclipse said me yesterday:
"I have not seen a master or even heard about one being made in the USA"
All disc replicators in USA (97%) use mastering from Eclipse Data ....
http://www.eclipsedata.com

billshepp

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Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 30, 2008 11:52 AM   in response to: kader_h
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> Hi Francois and all,

> BD9: it's available ? (AACS and/or Rom Mark are
> mandatory ?)

Should be available, it's just red laser DVD physically. AACS is mandatory, ROM Mark is not (to my knowledge).

BillS

kader_h

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Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 31, 2008 7:49 AM   in response to: billshepp
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I see on BDCMF software we can provide BD (BD25/50 or BD9) without AACS (we have choice on software).
And BD9 is not only BD on DVD, there is many other restriction (bitrate,...)
This software can generate image file for BD replication.

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2themax

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Re: How was the BD-J event in Barcelona?
Posted: Jan 30, 2008 6:29 PM   in response to: kader_h
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> BluPrint can make BD title without AACS to test it on PS3 (Scenarist can not ?).

Scenarist can with a slight modification to the Project file before muxing. Just got to remember to change it back before going to production.




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